Food Safety Talk 15: Soylent Pink

Don and Ben chat about meeting up in Georgia (and the awkwardness of chatting in person) and the ongoing pink slime/lean, finely textured beef saga.

• Don upgraded his phone's operating system to this, and the guys couldn't text each other.
• 'Text ya later, dude.'
• The official Food Safety Talk house band.
• Florida Association for Food Protection, where there are good banjo players.
• Tights that Ben wears every once in a while.
• Is it herbs or Herb's?
• What Dr. Micro and pathogen boy might look like.
• Five Star Day Cafe in Athens, GA where Don and Ben had dinner with Wendy Wade White.
• Larry Beuchat, who the Larry Beuchat young researcher award is so aptly named for.
• Larry's papers are too numerous to count. But since we mentioned Scott Burnett of Malt-o-Meal fame, here's a paper Larry and Scott co-authored.
• What is a log reduction?
• Carl Custer's post on FoodSafe summarizing his take on pink slime/LFTB.
• ABC News story that quotes Carl Custer.
• The American Meat Institute's comments on LFTB.
• Impact of pH Enhancement on Populations of Salmonella, Listeria monocytogenes, and Escherichia coli O157:H7 in Boneless Lean Beef Trimmings (Niebuhr and Dickson paper)
• Story with McDonald’s statement that Don reads as Ben rambles.
• USDA’s school choice statement.
• 2009 NY Times article on pink slime.
• Iowa State paper describing protein content of LFTB.
• Ben's food myths and memes post summarizing pink slime (myths and memes is where he posts stuff for North Carolina extension agents) post.
• BPI's YouTube channel.
• Katafiasz and Bartlett Paper that shows raw milk drinkers don't trust public health folks.
• Jamie Oliver's ammonia in beef video.
• Things that Ben used to write on genetic engineering risks (1, 2).
• Announcement that the National Academies of Science was to review ground beef purchasing for school meals.
• Blade tenderized needle tenderized meat outbreaks (1,2).
• John Luchansky's lab's work on blade tenderized meat.
• What Carl really wanted to name pink slime after.

Soylent Pink

Food Safety Talk 8: They both end in 40, so they rhyme

Don and Ben talk a lot about temperatures, thermometers, answering tough questions and the best place to tell your kids where babies come from. Show me the data/show me your work becomes a theme for the episode.

• Ben's new microphone items (1,2 and 3) and headphones (via Dan Benjamin)
• NACMCF Consumer Guidelines for the Safe Cooking of Poultry Products panel report that Don was part of.
• USDA/FSIS Appendix A.
• Essentially instantaneous death.
• Log reductions, not yule log reductions.
• Absolute zero.
• What a million servings of ground beef might look like (sort of).
• Douglas Adams' Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy says that the answer is 42. Ben knows the reference, has not read the book or seen the movie.
• D-values and Z-values (pronounced "zed" values in Canada).
• Choosing the right thermometer from guru Pete Snyder.
• 2009 FDA model food code and the Conference for Food Protection.
• Show me the data/science.
• Show your work.
• Elizabeth Weise, reporter extrordinaire.
• Cooking a turkey from a frozen state.
• Don's barfblog post on Nathan Myhrvold's book.
• Meet the Pete test.
• I Don't Know, the Sheepdogs.
• NJ car inspections, where you can learn where babies come from.
• Paper detaing Health Canada's review of poultry temperatures.
• Guatemalan raspberries - the Canadian/US experiment. The ultimate case-control study.
• Rocky's egg drink.
• Types of companies (1,2) that worry about transport time and temperature.
• Bacterial lag time, different from a lag putt or a lag bolt.
• It's complicated.
• Answer the question, Claire.
• We don't usually answer tough questions.
• The true Danger Zone, don't let the food safety nerds fool you.
• Ze Frank.
• Now it's serious business.

They Both End in 40, So They Rhyme